# If - A Testing Poem **URL:** https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/if-a-testing-poem/12132 **Category:** Archive **Created:** [12 December 2017 09:15 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/if-a-testing-poem/12132 "2017-12-12T09:15:04Z") **Posts on this page:** 1 **Showing post:** 5
### Author: ![AdyStokes](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/club.ministryoftesting.com/adystokes/32/14440_2.png) [@AdyStokes](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/u/AdyStokes) #### Post date: [9 January 2018 09:14 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/if-a-testing-poem/12132/5 "2018-01-09T09:14:49Z")
A rap this time! > [@The Fresh Prince of Testing - A Testing Rap](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/the-fresh-prince-of-testing-a-testing-rap/12350): > > For those of you who enjoyed my testing poem ‘If’ ([If - A Testing Poem - #2 by ronaldvz](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/if-a-testing-poem/12132/2)) In November I did a presentation at Leeds Tester Gathering with the slides available here; ([2017 11 leeds tester gathering - i see no bugs!](https://www.slideshare.net/adystokes/2017-11-leeds-tester-gathering-i-see-no-bugs)) The talk was about how a test manager back in 2005 pitted testers and developers against each other but using the measure of bugs. They were good for testers and bad for developers. This lead to arguments about features, not in the requirements etc. etc. Basically … --- _[View the full topic](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/if-a-testing-poem/12132)._