# Providing Value to Agile Ceremonies as a Tester - Masterclass Further Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** 🗓️ Events\ **Tags:** masterclass\ **Created:** [15 May 2018 19:00 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/providing-value-to-agile-ceremonies-as-a-tester-masterclass-further-discussion/15039 "2018-05-15T19:00:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 2
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Some posts I was reminded of during the masterclass: > [@Estimating effort on a story](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/estimating-effort-on-a-story/10686): > > A discussion has just come up today on the testers.chat slack channel about using planning poker to estimate for stories. It started with “In planning poker, do we estimate our own work or everybody else’s work?” I’ve written about this with @melthetester in our [games in testing](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/games-in-testing/10678) article series. I personally feel that there should be a shared understanding of the task to be undertaken so that there is an idea across the board of the amount of dev & test effort that will go in to a story. I thi… > [@What is the "Definition of Done"?](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/what-is-the-definition-of-done/13564): > > @techgirl1908 recently spoke at TestBash Philly about “How to Get Automation Included in Your Definition of Done”. @satya followed up with a blog post about the talk I stuck on this paragraph: Coming up a commonly agreed up on definition of done is quite hard and each stakeholder has different perspective. At the outset it seems quite obvious and achievable but software development is complex and there are many exceptions and context of each story matters. In my own context I’ve had 2 … --- _[View the full topic](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/providing-value-to-agile-ceremonies-as-a-tester-masterclass-further-discussion/15039)._