As I’ve progressed in my career over the last 10+ years, I’ve worked in a number of team contexts and ways of working. I started off working in a System Test team, with a Test Manager, and Project Managers. I was generally put on projects, and assigned work. I had some freedoms in how I did my work,…

Career progression in QE is something I’m still not clear on, maybe that’s due to my personal surroundings but i also noticed that we kinda did away with Test Managers but now they seem to be making a comeback… albeit with very old fashioned ways of doing things I thought this was an interesting re…

[image] MoT Midlands meetup 11th May (To be archived) Meetups We are holding another meetup this Thursday 11th May with our guest speaker - Stuart Day will be giving us a talk on Quality Engineering - Growing A Career Beyond Testing In this talk, Stuart will share his tho…

[image] becky.stirk: I thought this was an interesting read - https://club.ministryoftesting.com/uploads/short-url/twgWmTW2S3ypBZeVXrJne3Vfznq.pdf - nice little insight in the QE structure and role types within the Dunelm Group That’s a super handy resource. Thanks for sharing it here, @becky…

This is very similar way of working to how one of my preveious companies was set up. I found it particularly valuable to have a more exerienced tester to deffer to when I felt uncomfortable about situations that were occuring that with dev teams/Product Owners. Especially when it came to environment…

I kind of agree here, @xiaoxiao not all testers need a special test-manager. Testing can be simple and lightweight from special test managers if we let a product owner or a release manager do their job instead.

Can we expect the line manager to be knowledgeable of all specializations in the team? Obviously, they have to support career growth in general - but perhaps the specifics of role can come from another person.

I’m saying, I used to have this when I was managed by a tester, and now I miss it now I’m managed by Devs. As a senior, I have the experience to grow myself, and find peer support. But I worry for how we bring up the next generation of skilled Testers.

I’ve been thinking about your questions in terms of my career progression and it’s worked like this: My first job I worked for a big insurance company. I reported to a QA Manager and I think that position went all the way to VP. I don’t ever recall seeing a career ladder but I know people held hi…

I’ve always been a strong advocate for QA to not report to development managers. This gives us more autonomy and prevents some situations where QA may not want a release to go but are overruled by their line manager who happens to also be the dev manager. I had this in a past company, it was deeply…

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fullsnacktester (Ben Dowen) 24 July 2023 09:29 17

What I miss is not support managing testing, but having a line manager knowledgeable in testing who can coach me in my career growth.

With no test management, comes a lack of support for tester career growth, and that sucks.

The pros and cons of working under a Software Engineering manager VS a QA manager?

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