# \#rant **URL:** https://club.ministryoftesting.com/tag/rant/67.md [Latest](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/latest.md) · [Categories](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/categories.md) · [Tags](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/tags.md) --- ## [Developer said that testing is at the bottom of engineering](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/developer-said-that-testing-is-at-the-bottom-of-engineering/41580)
**Author:** [@general](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/u/general)\ **Replies:** 14\ **Last updated:** [17 June 2021 07:24 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/developer-said-that-testing-is-at-the-bottom-of-engineering/41580 "2021-06-17T07:24:32Z")
Hi again! Here I am with another rant… :sweat\_smile: :sweat\_smile: :sweat\_smile: Some time ago I was ranting about developers being rude to me at work without even knowing me at all, I mean, they were just being rude t… --- ## [Testing War Stories](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/testing-war-stories/48217)
**Author:** [@heather\_reid](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/u/heather_reid)\ **Replies:** 7\ **Last updated:** [10 March 2021 16:25 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/testing-war-stories/48217 "2021-03-10T16:25:17Z")
Inspired by the session that @christovskia ran at UI Automation week, I thought it would be fun to have a Club post about your testing war stories :grin: I shared a story with Chris about a company I interviewed with. T… --- ## [Doing versus thinking](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/doing-versus-thinking/48286)
**Author:** [@gerardmccann](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/u/gerardmccann)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [8 March 2021 20:33 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/doing-versus-thinking/48286 "2021-03-08T20:33:51Z")
\#startrant This wonderful article which has just been published really resonates with me on a bugbear of mine: why are we just doing what we’re doing, seemingly with our heads down? Why is no-one really questioning anyt… --- ## ['Basic regression will be good enough'](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/basic-regression-will-be-good-enough/46638)
**Author:** [@pwong](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/u/pwong)\ **Replies:** 17\ **Last updated:** [22 January 2021 11:39 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/basic-regression-will-be-good-enough/46638 "2021-01-22T11:39:42Z")
I need to vent my thoughts here. We are doing regression testing at work. To do this, we went through a preliminary list of test cases which is draft list of items (line by line, like 'create X record). Due to the lack o… --- ## [Selenium webdriver](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/selenium-webdriver/45767)
**Author:** [@conrad.braam](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/u/conrad.braam)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [18 December 2020 09:40 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/selenium-webdriver/45767 "2020-12-18T09:40:56Z")
I would just leave it there, but learning to use webdriver, has been a bit like learning SQL . SQL is a missnomer in that it’s not a “language” per se, but more a structure and ruleset and a sideline procedural language.… --- ## [Selenium/Webdriver](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/selenium-webdriver/43005)
**Author:** [@conrad.braam](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/u/conrad.braam)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [20 September 2020 09:31 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/selenium-webdriver/43005 "2020-09-20T09:31:01Z")
A lot of people are going to ask me why are you not using Sauce or a cloud test farm, but basically the ability to touch-test a swathe of browsers that I control appeals to me. And right now i want to vent about how brok… --- ## [Reporting bugs in Other people's apps](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/reporting-bugs-in-other-peoples-apps/42451)
**Author:** [@conrad.braam](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/u/conrad.braam)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [8 September 2020 08:16 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/reporting-bugs-in-other-peoples-apps/42451 "2020-09-08T08:16:36Z")
I’m not saying I’m good at testing, but at least once a month I find something in someone else’s app that’s disappointing. So I feel compelled to report it, this may involve a bit of homework to capture repro steps (ofte… --- ## [Do you get rude comments from devs?](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/do-you-get-rude-comments-from-devs/35754)
**Author:** [@general](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/u/general)\ **Replies:** 10\ **Last updated:** [12 August 2020 14:22 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/do-you-get-rude-comments-from-devs/35754 "2020-08-12T14:22:35Z")
HI! I wonder if this happens to more people (I guess it does) and in that case how you behave? Im in a company now with a huge huge system and the devs are organized by subsystems but the testers, we are testing one da… --- ## [I tried to go back to my previous job and it turns out bad everytime](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/i-tried-to-go-back-to-my-previous-job-and-it-turns-out-bad-everytime/39526)
**Author:** [@general](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/u/general)\ **Replies:** 5\ **Last updated:** [16 June 2020 17:55 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/i-tried-to-go-back-to-my-previous-job-and-it-turns-out-bad-everytime/39526 "2020-06-16T17:55:20Z")
Hi, how are you? :wink: how´s the Summer going so far? Just thinking about what to do in life, if you have any ideas or opinions are very welcome!! This is the thing: I was working abroad in a job that I really, reall… --- ## [Personal/Professional Development objectives](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/personal-professional-development-objectives/24219)
**Author:** [@02gls](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/u/02gls)\ **Replies:** 4\ **Last updated:** [2 May 2020 07:58 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/personal-professional-development-objectives/24219 "2020-05-02T07:58:26Z")
I guess we all have to do it… that performance review period. How do you go about finding inspiration for SMART objectives for the year ahead? What if you don’t know where the year will take you? --- ## [Continuing Testing Education of Non-Testers](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/continuing-testing-education-of-non-testers/29262)
**Author:** [@devtotest](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/u/devtotest)\ **Replies:** 5\ **Last updated:** [22 September 2019 19:50 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/continuing-testing-education-of-non-testers/29262 "2019-09-22T19:50:44Z")
Over a decade ago, we executed a testing transformation at the enterprise level. The intent was to define testing boundaries, introduce risk-based testing, and, in general, attempt to provide some consistent method of t… --- ## [Testing Excuses, Blame and Fear](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/testing-excuses-blame-and-fear/25967)
**Author:** [@lgibbs](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/u/lgibbs)\ **Replies:** 14\ **Last updated:** [18 July 2019 17:14 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/testing-excuses-blame-and-fear/25967 "2019-07-18T17:14:52Z")
Last week I published a blog post on work place culture. I look at some excuses a tester might make when confronted with a bug that went unnoticed. I then explain how these excuses might indicate an issue with the work c… --- ## [ISTQB - That´s it! No more certification exams, as they prove nothing](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/istqb-that-s-it-no-more-certification-exams-as-they-prove-nothing/23892)
**Author:** [@bjoern\_w](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/u/bjoern_w)\ **Replies:** 32\ **Last updated:** [19 April 2019 08:48 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/istqb-that-s-it-no-more-certification-exams-as-they-prove-nothing/23892 "2019-04-19T08:48:12Z")
Hi there, I am still a little upset, but I wanted to share my thoughts about ISTQB certification: Last week I finished a really well taught Foundation Level Course in Germany. I learned quite a lot, especially around s… --- ## [Must have ISTQB....really?](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/must-have-istqb-really/13685)
**Author:** [@inkyfreak](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/u/inkyfreak)\ **Replies:** 41\ **Last updated:** [12 April 2019 07:36 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/must-have-istqb-really/13685 "2019-04-12T07:36:16Z")
It seems pretty common practice now, for potential employers to insist upon a certificate in testing. This is often the ISEB/ISTQB Foundation certificate at a minimum. Now before I go into this, I want to offer a disclai… --- ## [Sign Off - Don't get me started](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/sign-off-dont-get-me-started/217)
**Author:** [@ivor](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/u/ivor)\ **Replies:** 5\ **Last updated:** [31 March 2019 11:25 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/sign-off-dont-get-me-started/217 "2019-03-31T11:25:43Z")
JM&J but I hate the term “Sign Off”. If you want me to sign off on the software, give me complete control and then I’ll sign off… I’ll provide data to help make a decision, but I won’t sign off a release/application/sy… --- ## [Lack of Respect/Appreciation of Testing (ratio of Testers:Devs)](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/lack-of-respect-appreciation-of-testing-ratio-of-testers-devs/11334)
**Author:** [@jmt-research](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/u/jmt-research)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [30 October 2017 13:58 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/lack-of-respect-appreciation-of-testing-ratio-of-testers-devs/11334 "2017-10-30T13:58:53Z")
There is so much to say on this topic, but what just got me going is a recent job posting. The company is looking for a "QA Tester’ to help them out - temporarily. Yep - it’s a temp position. That shows their commitme… --- ## [Quality Assurance - stop using this term!](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/quality-assurance-stop-using-this-term/354)
**Author:** [@sjwatsonuk](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/u/sjwatsonuk)\ **Replies:** 18\ **Last updated:** [5 November 2018 08:53 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/quality-assurance-stop-using-this-term/354 "2018-11-05T08:53:16Z")
I really dislike this term. How can anyone assure quality?? It makes the assumption that testers are the only ones who are accountable for, and care about, code quality and that is fundamentally wrong. Everyone in a te… --- ## [Software Engineer in Test Unicorns & Coding Tests](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/software-engineer-in-test-unicorns-coding-tests/16131)
**Author:** [@jacka](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/u/jacka)\ **Replies:** 5\ **Last updated:** [29 June 2018 17:53 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/software-engineer-in-test-unicorns-coding-tests/16131 "2018-06-29T17:53:11Z")
For years I have been trying to recruit testers that can write code, or developers that have a good test mindset and don’t mind having test in their job title. Why is it such a rare skill-set? The software I work with … --- ## [Freedom to use words rant](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/freedom-to-use-words-rant/149)
**Author:** [@rosie](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/u/rosie)\ **Replies:** 23\ **Last updated:** [20 June 2018 22:05 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/freedom-to-use-words-rant/149 "2018-06-20T22:05:11Z")
So, I have a rant, not aimed at anyone in particular. And I guess you could call it being the ‘word police’. There are certain words I’d like to use without being told that I’m using the wrong word, or using the word i… --- ## [Spelling, grammar and other mistakes](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/spelling-grammar-and-other-mistakes/14321)
**Author:** [@terrylahern87](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/u/terrylahern87)\ **Replies:** 18\ **Last updated:** [18 April 2018 15:20 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/spelling-grammar-and-other-mistakes/14321 "2018-04-18T15:20:23Z")
I might be too over the top sometimes, but…my biggest pet hate is when I find spelling/ grammar/ punctuation mistakes when reading articles or blog posts by other test professionals. It drives me insane! Far too often, … --- ## [Dithering and wavering](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/dithering-and-wavering/13561)
**Author:** [@olaf.meys](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/u/olaf.meys)\ **Replies:** 5\ **Last updated:** [16 March 2018 13:20 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/dithering-and-wavering/13561 "2018-03-16T13:20:59Z")
Don’t you just hate when people dither and don’t deliver things when they’re supposed to? Or when they just sit on the fence and don’t make decisions? --- ## [Really Bad Bugs](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/really-bad-bugs/13199)
**Author:** [@sierscse](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/u/sierscse)\ **Replies:** 4\ **Last updated:** [13 February 2018 22:51 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/really-bad-bugs/13199 "2018-02-13T22:51:39Z")
Have you ever seen something on a website and thought ‘wow!’ A friend’s website has a similar domain name to another business (he registered his domain name first) and they both offer SEO services. The other business mus… --- ## [Bug Reporting - how detailed without angering devs?](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/bug-reporting-how-detailed-without-angering-devs/784)
**Author:** [@sad\_muso](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/u/sad_muso)\ **Replies:** 19\ **Last updated:** [12 February 2018 11:57 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/bug-reporting-how-detailed-without-angering-devs/784 "2018-02-12T11:57:40Z")
Hi All, I would like to get your views on just how technical a Tester should be when logging a bug. My mantra has always been to provide the Developers with as much information as I can in order to help them debug the i… --- ## [Wait what? "Intelligent testing" is not "AI-assisted testing"](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/wait-what-intelligent-testing-is-not-ai-assisted-testing/13174)
**Author:** [@katepaulk](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/u/katepaulk)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [9 February 2018 20:10 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/wait-what-intelligent-testing-is-not-ai-assisted-testing/13174 "2018-02-09T20:10:33Z")
When I took a look at a post claiming that the “era of intelligent testing is challenging the norms of QA” I figured I’d get something potentially interesting about AI-assisted testing and how it could impact the field. … --- ## [Free Resources- that are NOT free!](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/free-resources-that-are-not-free/12863)
**Author:** [@olaf.meys](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/u/olaf.meys)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [29 January 2018 10:50 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/free-resources-that-are-not-free/12863 "2018-01-29T10:50:26Z")
So I get an e-mail claiming to be for a free it-related resource from a software vendor. Click on the link, and I need to fill in full company details, including full address, phone number, country, size, etc.- all manda… --- ## [Should you log a defect on a website you visit or join?](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/should-you-log-a-defect-on-a-website-you-visit-or-join/12367)
**Author:** [@kimberley](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/u/kimberley)\ **Replies:** 6\ **Last updated:** [15 January 2018 09:48 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/should-you-log-a-defect-on-a-website-you-visit-or-join/12367 "2018-01-15T09:48:07Z")
The past 3 days have been nightmarish and I need to put this in the ‘Rant’ section I think, as I am now in two minds about helping businesses with defects. 5 days prior I decided to join a well know organisation which w… --- ## [Do or Do Not - There is a Try](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/do-or-do-not-there-is-a-try/221)
**Author:** [@jesper](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/u/jesper)\ **Replies:** 9\ **Last updated:** [27 October 2017 14:22 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/do-or-do-not-there-is-a-try/221 "2017-10-27T14:22:44Z")
I never understood “Do or Do not - There is no Try” - besides the Yoda Quote… obviously (And I do like Yoda ;-)) . If it’s something I have never done or explored before… I’m TRYing. I’m TESTing. That’s one of the reaso… --- ## [Technical/Non-technical - what positions would they apply to?](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/technical-non-technical-what-positions-would-they-apply-to/70)
**Author:** [@melthetester](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/u/melthetester)\ **Replies:** 5\ **Last updated:** [19 May 2017 08:34 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/technical-non-technical-what-positions-would-they-apply-to/70 "2017-05-19T08:34:46Z")
A pet peeve of mine is someone referring to a tester as non-technical. Business analysts are not referred to as non-technical. UX and UI folks aren’t referred to as non-technical. How did testers get this non-technical t… --- ## [Bug vs Feature (or something else)](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/bug-vs-feature-or-something-else/781)
**Author:** [@learning](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/u/learning)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [18 May 2017 13:11 UTC](https://club.ministryoftesting.com/t/bug-vs-feature-or-something-else/781 "2017-05-18T13:11:46Z")
Hi all, My team has received a request for customer to change the background color in some parts of a legacy app we are upgrading. It is important for the customer to have all change requests properly sorted out to: Leg…