And speaking of Janet, and quality practices, the quality practices assessment model she and Selena Delesie developed is incredibly helpful. I’ve done several assessments for clients, it really helped them get traction on improving quality. And you can do it yourself, the books have total guidance on how. Quality Assessments using QPAM
This is exactly what I was hoping to hear, and your point about it being driven by you/you acting as an independent chair and herding cats a bit sounds very familiar
This part is really interesting to me (I’ve always had to chase down devs more than CS, who have been eager to be included at all) but your point about ownership possibly being why makes sense.
So interesting, I love hearing how things work on other teams!
Got it, thank you for clarifying! Yes, that’s such a common problem. And those friction points definitely belong in quality assessments because they directly impact how much quality work teams can actually get done, even if they are more about infra than the product. Good quality debt signals.
Thanks for sharing these, Lisa! I’m familiar with DORA metrics (I’ve been thinking about the quality category in the DX Core 4 and how that might connect to this kind of assessment work?). Definitely going to check out your post with Janet. And thanks again for the QPAM reccs, I bought the bundle yesterday and it’s tonight’s bedtime reading
Awesome! I’m happy to chat about my experiences with QPAM and/or DORA stuff with you if you like. I am a fan of DX Core 4 as well though I have not had an opportunity to use it.
Yeah those metrics are from DORA and used in the Accelerate book.
I totally forgot about the measurements of test added or time taken for tests. This is a good one too. Last week we started looking into this as one of our builds went from 15mins to over 40 and found that the culprit was tests built in… not the best ways. So we’re actually digging into this now. That’s a really good call out that I didn’t think to associate to this one.
You can have the best processes and tools in the whole world with Unit Tests & Mutation Tests, Fancy Designs and all kind of tests and JIRA boards, but if your customer / end user is not happy with the product, you still build a sh*t product
