Your First Testing Job vs Now

I’ve just read a blog post this morning “Testing in a team (then and now)” which sparked a bit of retrospection in me. Even in my pretty short time in the testing world, my first job vs what I’m doing now is very different.

My first job was so waterfall you could almost say it was dammed. They’d been working on a release for 5 years before I joined (for a year) and it still wasn’t released. It was a great learning environment though :grin:

More recently I was working in a continuous deployment house which was a completely different ball game but again, an excellent learning experience.

What about you? What differences are there between your first testing job and your current one?

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Hey! Interesting read! Yup for me the testing back then & the testing now is different, as well, but with kinda opposite experience.

I am a developer & tester (doing both on & off). The first project that I joined as a tester was a great experience. It was a governmental website, and they had the mentality that it should be accessible by all (including people with special needs, people with low internet connection etc). So in terms of UX, Accessibility, Security, Performance, Responsiveness,Cross-platform, Automated testing everything was included! QA was first & then new features! We even had ZDD on kubernetes and that is almost 3 years ago. I learned so much!
Every other project I have joined since then, is just not enough. I raise tickets about how inaccessible or how not user-friendly some things are and the PO closes them immediately. Not enough time & budget for those. I sometimes, don’t know what to raise and what not anymore.

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Your first place sounds amazing!

I guess all you can do is raise it with people and advocate for the bugs you raise. Unfortunately, accessibility and user experience seem to fall by the wayside in many places :frowning:

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Hallo,

I am learning java to be tester. I have started 2 weeks ago.

Unfortunately. I cannot help you. You are better than me. But if you help me, i will be happy.

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Hey Mesut,

Welcome to The Club and your testing journey :wave: It sounds like the Learning category would be a great place for you to explore. There is also a coding channel on the Ministry of Testing Slack which would be an excellent place to learn java with others.

My first testing role was in 1995 or -96. I had been headhunted into our organisation’s Quality Assurance Team during 1994 when we were engaged on a major project, but this was a regulatory price-setting exercise, not a software project. Software was involved, but that was in the hands of contractors (a Big Name accountancy firm); we only developed the in-house resources to do the software work after the contractors moved out and left us to fix the bugs in their software…

I started out working on data quality, liaising with independent civil engineering consultants to try to ensure that the numbers utility companies reported back to us were robust. After that, I examined the implications of bringing in what was then ISO 9000 to address quality across the organisation. Gradually, I also took up requirements gathering for the data reporting the utility companies we regulated would be required to deliver to us. Only once those requirements were all gathered, reviewed and their relationships properly mapped did we start developing a data capture system. This was effectively a spreadsheet; my testing consisted of working through the embedded calculations to confirm that they delivered the right answers - not as easy as it sounds, because there were a couple of calculations deep in the structure where the tech of the day could deliver different answers depending on whether you used a calculator or a computer! Look up the Pentium 4 floating point arithmetic bug, though the issue existed before then. And I had to give some very senior people confidence that the machine produced the “right answers”.

As we underwent mission creep and each year, colleagues asked for more information, the ability of the system to work effectively required greater levels of sophistication. By the time I left that role, 15 years later, it was a thin client database, with data being scraped off into a much larger database on our main servers which was then used for quite powerful financial modelling.

Perhaps the biggest difference is that my testing work consisted of regression testing the same application for each of those 15 years. You will understand that by then, I was pretty jaded with the whole thing. At the same time, the organisation had gone through changes and a new senior management had decided to drop that approach to data collection, and having sunk 15 years of my professional life into it, I felt rather affronted that everything I had done for the bulk of my time with the organisation was being trashed. I had to walk away from testing for a couple of years and do something completely different just to get my head back into a reasonable place.

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Wow, I can completely understand why you needed a break. I can’t imagine what it was like to watch 15 years of work get treated like that :frowning:

I am glad that you chose to return to testing, you’ve given me some really valuable insights over the years on this forum :grin:

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Thank you for those words, Heather.

Given that regulatory decisions rested on the crunching of the numbers we collected each year, if I got my work wrong, every water bill in England and Wales could have been wrong, so no pressure there at all :sweat:

There were a number of other reasons why I walked away from that role, but being both sick of the sight of an app and at the same time being immensely proud of it when someone new pulls the plug on it because it was seen as representing the policies of the previous management didn’t help.